The Poolie Bunker

Best to check the website out at http://www.myfootballclub.co.uk than me try to explain.

Read the sections on 'How it works' and the 'FAQ'

I personally have registered and paid my £35 membership. You would be amazed at some of the ideas and the thought going into it from the MyFC team and people who have registered as members.

There also seems to be very good communication between the MyFC team and registered members.

**This is not for British only, you would be surprised at the number of different nationalities of people who have registered**

first posting and expecting us poolies to part with £35

Fuck off and take your spam with you

Now now, lets not be mean to newcomers.

Welcome to the site Boshpoolie.

And fo0k off.

Call me a cynic like...but Im 99.9% sure he will never log back on and see these messages. There is likely to be a new member on darlos board called boshdarlo methinks anytime now.

yeah like thats not a tall tail who would pay to join a message board to air your views it will be full of idiots anyway, my guess is he owns the site and it will be all going into his sky-rocket

Well I'm convinced! my £35 is winging its way as we speak. Incidentally, what is everyones thoughts on a £50 membership fee for the Bunker? I was thinking of charging maybe 5 years in advance?

Is a tall-tail the opposite of a no-tail?

I take it you people have never heard of this myfootballclub thing, it's not £35 to post on the message board. It's £35 to join the syndicate which is going to attempt to buy a football club.

It's been on the news and stuff...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/6914775.stm

Who's running it?

Ken Bates?

george renyolds

Yes and the whole thing is a joke that if happened would ruin football.

The fans, most of whom will never see the team will pick the team by voting. They will vote on who to buy and sell and vote on what tactics and formation the team would be.

It is one of the worst ideas I've heard about.

I'm glad they've got no chance of buying us. Thank fook for IOR.

What I want to know is which daft get let him in??

Do I sweat all night booting spammers out not knowing that you all want to buy viagra, ritalin and need penis extensions??

Please do not answer that question, I couldn't take the nightmares.......

Dibble? :looksforlittlesmileymandoingshouldershruggingthingbutcantfindhim:

So they collect all these £35's and then after a year or two decide not to buy a club. What happens to the loot ?

Not forgetting its £35 for a YEAR membership, the fella running it will no doubt be paid a salary from the company so he's set for life but they're selling it as your chance to own part of a footy club. The voting will only have so much input on the running of a club, they can't expect a manager to take over (maybe Scotty would) and be told what to do by fans. Imagine if all the fans were like Headlander, 11 new players every week. Hang on...sounds like Darlo!

And I thought this was the intelligent board out of rivals and the bunker.

Im a poolie, had a season ticket for 12 years (I also renewed for this season) and live in Seaton Carew.

It could be classed as spam I suppose, but I guess you must indeed be a sad man to not only read said 'spam' but also to take the time to post in the thread.

If Will Brooks is taking the piss and scamming 50,000+ people out of £35 each I would find that to be great entertainment. What a fantastic idea. Unfrontunately I think the guy is actually genuine. Time will tell I suppose.


The people who are sceptical about the voting system, well yeh it could turn out to be utter bollocks. However I find it intersting and would like to at least be a part of it. £35 is not alot of money for a full years subscription, especially when you consider a ticket for Pools is £20.

However I am amazed that some of you are posting in this thread pouring scorn over this venture without even taking a look at the website and reading up on it.

I am not certain, but judging from posts on the forums over there that members only have access to, it seems that the MyFC team aim to set up video footage of EVERY single game accessible by members only. Meaning not only could every member of MyFC watch the matches, possibly live, they can re-watch them and analyse.

You also have to bear in mind that when a club is taken over (a possibility and my own preference York City), all York City fans would (I can almost guarentee it) invest their own £35 into the club and become MyFC members with full voting rights, meaning MyFC members would consist of a certain % of real fans, and a certain % of football fans who are interested and watch the matches via video.


I do agree that this could be a bad idea if it happened to Pools and I too 'thank fuck for IOR', but some football clubs are not as fortunate as us. Some football clubs really struggle and have the piss taken out of them by numerous green fingered owners. Those are the clubs that would really benefit from a whopping £1.5m+ investment.

Please also consider the other implications of MyFC actually buying a club, the publicity etc. EA games have already sponsered MyFC, and all they have atm is their logo on the website. Think about the fact that there has been a poll on MyFC forums, indicating that roughly 80% of the MyFC (thus far) would be willing to invest in replica shirts etc (including me). Thats up to 40,000 EXTRA replica shirts, nevermind other merchandise. Are you getting my drift ?



One last thing to whoever said what happens after 2 years when everyone fucks off. All money remains in the club. Each MyFC member has a share valued at a static value of £1, the idea is not to make money, but to invest money in a struggling league two/conference club. I believe a new investor would be able to takeover the club for next to nothing, bearing in mind MyFC would have brought multi-million pounds worth of investment. However if you took a look at the info. on the website you would already know this.


Conclusions from me from posting one message on this board:-
40% Ignorant
40% Rude
10% Pessimistic
10% Who I would actually consider sharing a pint with before a match.


Please can I have some reponses to tell me im wrong?

LOL I think that not only makes me a cynic but it makes me wrong too.

Apologies Boshpoolie but it looked like a typical scam. I was waiting for you to promote 'stayhard' pills or something.

I actually didnt ask you to do anything.

However fair point, afterall MyFC does cost money.

But from my point of view its only a little extra money if you consider you 'invest' over a grand in Pools. Its just something different, something to get involved in rather than playing Champ Man/Football Manager. Obviously if you have no interest in those type of games, this wont interest you.

I just posted here to see if there was any interest in this kind of thing among poolies.

And im fairly sure that the football league club owned by the fans, would be quite different from MyFC.

Why has myfootballclub.co.uk sent a PR guy to talk to us?

Surely they're not trying to take over us?

Let’s take it via the FAQ…

“membership fees from new members will be divided into various funds, eg Player Transfers, Stadium, Youth Policy and Community. It will be up to the members to decide what percentage of the money each fund receives. “

So basically this is letting the members weigh up more complicated matters than they should. There’s implications to these decisions and you really can’t have people voting on these matters. E.g. the community relies on the club, e.g. helping out the disabled and other community matters. Thus you are letting people outside the community vote on matters that could effect the community. Hartlepool does a lot of work for the community and if we were taken over by this it could have a bad effect. How much funding each part of the club recieves shouldn’t be voted on by the public it should be decided by a financial team/management.

“Won’t the existing fans of the club be unhappy?”
A proportion of fans might be, as with all football club takeovers. Others, however, will recognise the benefits of being owned by thousands of football lovers from around the world.

I wouldn’t really want us to be owned by plastic Premiership fans. You say that these members may be able to watch video footage, but who is to say these members can be arsed watching it? They’ll receive a training report…so what? A manager/coach sees things with his own eyes and knows more about a player than these members will know by a training report.

“No manager… you serious?”
He can guide members on which players and formations may work, however, ultimate responsibility rests with the members.

These members aren’t tacticions, nor are they football managers. They are wanabee football managers who believe that Champ Manager knows best…it isn’t the case. You’re not playing a game ur messing with a club here. (see quote that I will put at end of the page)

“How will players be bought and sold?”
MyFootballClub members will be able to suggest transfer targets. As will the Head Coach and club scouts. Deals to buy these players will be done in principle, and then members will vote whether to accept or veto the transfer.

Again…let’s vote. Not many people knew about Liddle, would he have been voted in? Would Boland? Would Arran Lee-Barratt? Not a chance on ALB been voted in who at the moment looks like our best signing. Would these members see the potential that these scouts see?

“How will the team be picked?”
The Head Coach will brief members. This will include a review of the previous match, reports from the training ground and views on the forthcoming opposition. He will also give his thoughts on players, their form and fitness, as well as possible selections and tactics.

Members will then submit their preferred 11, formation and tactics. A database will calculate the most popular choice. This will be handed to The Head Coach to instigate.

Again…running a football team isn’t a game. Preffered 11, what would have happened to Joel Porter if the fans picked the team? He’d never have played again after his sub-standard start at the club, while he was settling in. Nobody would have picked him again. But Cooper did and my god did he prove my doubts wrong.

“How will players react to being picked by thousands of members rather than a manager?”
It will inspire them. Having the backing of tens of thousands of members will be the ultimate motivation.

If I was a player I wouldn’t want it. I’d feel rejected by the fans/members if I was dropped. Managers are good at motivating players and telling them why they haven’t been pick. Members voting can’t do this.

“What if someone intentionally makes bad decisions to affect the club?”
Firstly, we think it’s unlikely someone would pay £35 to do this, but if they do, we should thank them for providing money to buy players and improve the club.

Yes let’s thank them.


To quote MadJohn:“I blame Championship Manager and soccerbase. Everyone's a fooking expert these days.” No shit Sherlock.

I've just noticed the small print

£7.50 from every £35 goes towards "the administration of the MyFootballClub Trust and the building and management of the MyFootballClub website".

So that's a couple of thousand a year for the website and the rest a goes in their pockets.

I've been keeping an eye on the idea from the word go, don't think in the end I'll invest my money, mainly because I've got enough on my hands supporting one football club without taking on another one!

But I can see the attraction. If there's one moan and would always have of IOR it's the distance they keep the fans from the club, I'd love to know a little more, but it's all locked away far from the normal fan in the street.

Now you could say what right have you to 'know more', well apart from being a lifelong fan I have no right, that's were MyFC comes in I guess.

I do worry about the voting on buying players and the like, also no manager!! somebody is going to have to manage the club, vote on who the manager is yes, but not what he tells the players.

In the end, isn't this just giving football back to the fans???

I once knew a man who made a lot of money from pyramid selling! No seriously, each to their own, it's clearly not your cup of tea, but there are 50,000 people who are drinking from the tea pot of MyFC.

DanielGaunt

Maybe your 100% right

But I find it worth £35 just to be involved in the process, to see how they actually set up the voting system etc

To see what the first team coaches reports look like

To actually be involved in transfer speculation rather then read ridiculous posts about 'former premiership players with an s in their name'.

Actually seeing what sort of sponsership offers clubs at our level receive, and a chance to vote on them

To actually have a (very, very small and insignificant I admit) say on what team gets picked.


It may be utter bollocks, and no Pools are definately not one of the clubs listed as posibilities, I too would be very pessemistic about my own football club being used as a guinea pig - especially given the fact we have had fantastic backing over the past 10? years. No disrespect to Mr Hornsey who was a fantastic man, but IOR have turned our fortunes around on a massive scale.


Im not saying MyFC will work, or that its the greatest idea - just that its a very intersting concept. Perhaps you need an inquisitive mind for this type of thing.

If anyone is interested however, and unwilling to fork out £35 - I could keep you updated on whats going on, on the forums - just let me know.


@ ADG. If there are exactly 50,000 members each member has 1 in 50,000 'say' in the club, if more members join - obviously this 'say' is diluted.

Oh wait ... you were trying to be funny ?

Set up a fund as a limited company, charge 50'000 shareholders £35 a share - revenue = £1.75m

The shareholders might have voting rights on the 'club' but the Ltd company shareholders have exclusive rights on the operation of the company including salaries.

You're wrong ADG, its a damn good idea!

Ken Bates.


And the taxman

If you fellas can't recognise a hard sell when you read one, then I misjudged the lot of you.

Little bit provocative, very persuasive, slightly disdainful, makes you feel a bit stupid for not getting involved, agrees and then steers. How many football fans want to run a club?? - (sonorous voice) - AND NOW YOU CAN FOR JUST 35 SNODGERS ((c)Mutley)

Amway anyone??

'Oooohhh you'll REALLY be missing out if you're not in this great scheme with us, you'll be so jealous and wish you had later on and then it'll be too late......'

If this flies, I can.....

Bosh 'poolie' - where do we find the 50,000 names like?? And how many Moonies killed themselves again??