The Poolie Bunker

Hartlepool United showing nothing more than the same spineless shit away from home for the last four months. ANOTHER two goals against.
AT least this has made me decide, it's only worth turning up for home games. I've been to my last away game already this season (Forest), and that's my lot. People say this away run can't continue, but it will.
This side might scrounge a lucky away point or two before the end of the season, but it wouldn't surprise me to see them lose the lot. In fact, I expect this now.
Six home wins out of the last eight needed, or else it's relegation.

Without those clubs losing points, it wouldn't be a matter of whether or not we stayed up, it would be a case of which relegation slot we would occupy.
WILSON OUT.

All Pools appear to be fighting for is to get in that slot at fourth bottom. Sort it out.......

It's ended up with us looking for a place in the lifeboat...some cruise eh...?

nothing to do with the sending off then? a knee-jerk reaction without considering what actually went on at the match?

What 'went on at the match' was... we lost, there are no mitigating circumstances taken into account in the table when the points are dished out.

maybe not when the points are dished out no.

But mitigating circumstances are what make football the very best sport in the world. We ALL were spouting 'the ref cost us' at the playoff final and 'losing Boydy and Porter during our relegation season surely cost us' etc etc

Without all of these 'bad refereeing decision' or 'missed penalties' or 'red cards' then football would be boring.

We deserved a minimum of a point today and if 'a dodgy looking red card' hadn't happened then i felt confident we would have went on to get a point at least.

But when your playing a playoff chasing team, away from home and you get a player sent off then suddenly the chances of picking up anything from the match diminishes massively.

But some people do not see that, they see an away defeat and call for the managers head

i see it as poor discipline from a senior player who has cost us badly today and possibly even worse long term
a friend of mine at the game said we were never looking likely to score
where as southend were missing chances and one of them was bound to hit eventually we just made it easier for them

I would suggest then Mr Gremlin that you send your friend to either specsavers or the nut ken.
We were the better team, we were looking comfortable and we were done for by the officials and there player conning them, I don't think Collins did anything, but it was too far away for us to be sure, the ref definitely didn't see anything and judging by the fact it took the ref and linesman 4 minutes to agree to send the wrong man off first says it all !
We were on top at the start of the second half and pressing for a 2nd goal, but unfortunately Porter wrong footed all of our midfield from a good attacking position, on the corner of there box, solely due to him wanting to pass the buck.
They went up the other end and equalised.

Nobody that went could say we didn't deserve something, and it certainly wasn't a spineless performance.

Come along Mr Chip, you're just being a little trickster, you know I know, that you know that this season we do normally lose after going in front, and all due to a number of different reasons.
Unfortunately for you, Mr Snowy, Mr Parmo, Mr Gremlin etc etc for this one you can't pin the blame on Danny boy or your other favourite pet hates, although it sounds as though, Danny boy donned the gloves during all the commotion during the sending off debacle and lined the wall up.

We were nothing from start to finish, the difference was that they upped their game in the second half and we didn't. Yes the ref was dodgy but irrespective of the sending off, the same old culprits gave the ball away time after time. Had they had ten or eleven men they would have scored eventually.

2-1 to them seemed about right based on the respective performances. We are a bottom ten side, we won't go down because we'll scrape the odd win here and there. There's nothing to get excited about in our team though.

if this was , let's say, only the fifth or sixth away defeat in the last ten I'd agree with you. It isn't, so I don't.
I say this manager must not be in charge next season, or else we WILL be relegated.That's if (and it's a big if) we stay up this season.

The difference being Mr Chip, is that I'm not slagging him off left right and centre for things he hasn't been responsibe for, Porter on his day is a good player in this division, has his day been and gone I hope not, but the fact is he gave away good possession under no presssure that totally wrong footed our whole midfield, did he chase back? did he look bothered? they broke, pressure on crowd lifted and we never recovered.
2nd goal, I said was schoolboy stuff and didn't know who was responsible for marking who, but both Liddle and Porter both walked away looking suspiciously sheepish.

Yeah Porters days have been and gone, I mean he's been superb in our last two home games and scored 8 goals in 11 starts this season. I'd get rid now The first goal was a superb strike, you can't blame a centre forward giving the ball earlier for that. The second goal was down to the keeper and defenders getting us organised you can't point the finger at two players who 'looked sheepish'

...and what 'favourite pet hates' would they be...
You seem to have a 'talent' for smoke and mirrors, so do enlighten us bewildered souls, if we've said something we can't recall.
Your resolute defence of Danny Boy is oddly inflexible, he appears blameless in your eyes...yet you proceed to demolish with gusto, the 'stalwarts' of the team. The words kettle and black spring to mind.

Your favourite Pet hates Mr Snowy I'll remind you are or where, Danny Boy, Richie Barker, Robbie Elliott, Godwin Antwi, Willie Boland and anyone else that is in the team ahead of the good old boys.
I've said on an earlier post that there's loads of things Danny Boy has done that I haven't agreed with, but he's the manager and will stand and fall by his decisions.
I've never demolished any of the stalwarts with gusto, but slagging off Richie Barker off cos he's getting in the team ahead of Joel Porter who has been injured most of the season beats the sh*t out of me, slagging Antwi or anyone else who dares get in the team ahead of Clarke beats the sh*t out of me, slagging Boland or anyone else who gets in the team ahead of Sweeney beats the sh*t out of me.
If you want my opinion on these stalwarts I'll give you it.
Porter is and has been a very good player for us when he wants to be, but unfortunately is now injury prone, gives up far too easily, plays one good game in 5 and only at home, I don't know what's wrong with him and would love him to get back to his best and consistently, but wil he
Clarke went down in my estimation during Scotty's disasterous reign, in my opinion he didn't appear to be trying because of a dislike for Scotty, yet his performances improved 3 fold after Scotty had gone, why should that be, he plays for Hartlepool United and should put 100% effort in every game.
Sweeney just doesn't touch the ball, and just runs and runs, a bit like Forest Gump I suppose, now if his only touch is going to result in a goal like versus Southend maybe we could accomodate him in midfield, but saddly it doesn't.
I've never slagged any of these off, but have simply pointed out crucial mistakes they have made that no-one else appears to see, to deflect some of the unfair criticism Barker and others come in for. The end.

Er, no I haven't..only Danny boy.... I think you may me mixing me up with someone else, you'll find I don't slag players off... I await your retraction.

You missed the thread Mr Kebab-Face, I am pointing out my opinions of those players.
Porters description wasn't much different to yours other than I think his best days are unfortunately behind him
Clarke - standing up to him didn't do us any good did it, he should have put the effort in to helping keep us up, and then sort him out if that's how he felt.
Sweeney - didn't think he'd be too offended with being called Forest Gump, but obviously you are, is this the only bit you didn't agree with?
You won't find a post from me slagging a players performance off I don't think

...I aint going away...I believe you owe me a retraction.

Congratulations that post is the single biggest load of hypocritical bollox I have ever read on the bunker.

Porter has been fit and available for 30 of 36 matches this season, the manager has started him 11 times He has scored 8 goals. Injured most of the season are you for real?

Ben Clark hardly got a sniff during the days of Chuckle, Neil Collins came from Sunderland until January Darren Williams was actually preferred at centre back a couple of times. He was excellent in the latter part of the season when he actually got a game he's suffered similarly this season when Antwi was preferred and the in and out nature of his appearances in my opinion maybe have contributed towards his niggles throughout the season.

Sweeney is a decent player who is undervalued and has great attitude you could see that from the way he's slotted in at right back. Again he has been used sparingly.

You have singled out three players who have been on the periphery out of choice by the manager and backed people who have been more often than not selected in this appalling run of form away from home

The way you just spout shite at will suggests you have some sort of hidden agenda with a few people on here and just want to disagree for the sake of it.

You point by point rip one of his posts apart and he does a Lord Lucan on us

He's went riding on Shergar along with Lord Lucan....