The Poolie Bunker

Statement on behalf of Mr Raj Singh and Hartlepool United Football Club https://share.google/GdioD0W2SSGeFp9L7

Pick the bones out of that one...

£2?

Due diligence was undertaken by Shelley wasn't it??
I wish Raj would stop digging....no i don't actually....it's very funny.

So a price was agreed and 10% was deposited, with the balance to be deposited before pen was put to paper. It is stated that didn't happen causing the deal to break down. As Raj is so interested in libel laws I don't think he would put that in writing if it was false.
The silence from the proposed buyers is deafening.
The Mail has apologised for not consulting the club before publishing Kevin Maguire's musings.

Maybe Shelley can't say anything due to NDA's???

I thought she said that they were in the process of applying due diligence but even if it was, the 90% was to be paid at the point (or before) the club was signed over and that is being cited as the reason for it collapsing.
I know it is easy to blame everything on the club but until we know the facts 100%, I think we should have a blank sheet of paper on this. It is so easy to believe what you want to believe but personally I would wait for verification.
The silence from the other party is showing in Raj's favour at this moment.
Until that changes I think we should keep our powder dry.

Mail has apologised. Can't remember whether it was Robbie Stelling who wrote the two 'offending' articles. If it wasn't, I guess that means he gets his pass into the Vic back. If it was, he might be looking for a new job...

So Lennie Lawrence and Lee Rust WERE on the interim board - harder to shift than barnacles, them two.

Ought to be over to Shelley Hammond & Co. for a response, unless they are still bound by a confidentially agreement. Surely that has lapsed now because the takeover is a dead duck? Raj states they never had the money to complete a takeover. Is that potentially libellous?

That's a fair point but as Raj has broken the silence, it is fair that she can also. We'll see.

After a ‘summer break’ that felt like paddling a canoe up Niagara Falls, I’ve lost all interest in these ramblings.

He said, She said, the Mail said, but hee haw actually happened.
As someone's already said I wouldn't expect Raj to open himself up to litigation and the wording and content is vague enough to ensure that.
If he thought that this will gain him any support among fans then he got that wrong. He is having the last word though, or is he Shelley?
The Trust are very quiet too, have they had the notice of litigation delivered too?

If McGuire had said allegedly after his comments would he and The Mail have nothing to worry about ?

Literally nothing to see here-

This is what Our Great Leader has clearly insisted on before he allows the Mail back in the ground before the first home game.

This would make sense.

He's doing an excellent job funding Larrys Promotion Squad.

Lets win Saturday and have a good night's celebrations.

He certainly picks his moments to publish these statements. A few days before the first home game of the season ? Is he just out to antagonise the faithful ?
Beggars belief really.

For clarity, the proposed new owners will only have had to deposit the remaining funds with their own solicitors (which is normal for this sort of transaction to demonstrate full proof of funds), so there was no risk that Raj or anyone else could get their hands on it prior to a deal being signed.

Although there may still be some NDA issues preventing SH from commenting, I will be surprised if Raj would get away with making such a specific statement about funds without it being true.

Also complete hearsay, but a rumoured local businessman who was allegedly also part of the consortium, hasn't got a great reputation for being upstanding/trustworthy.

Who knows the full truth, but with NDA's and sensitive negotiations etc, it is always going to be the case that the finer details will remain confidential.

For me, I still think it is time for new ownership, but in the meantime, I will give credit to the club for what appears to be far better pre-season recruitment than I was expecting. Of course, very early day, but given the turmoil and very late start to planning this campaign, I was expecting to be one of the favourites for relegation, which will hopefully not be the case.

For now, I think we should focus on backing the team next weekend (and every game thereafter) in numbers and see what develops.

Aye, it’s all about the team…the rest is irrelevant to me.

thats true, but so many have made there minds up to who is to blame for the lack of action. it is what it is and should not stop anyone getting behind the important things, the manager and the players who are the ones who give us the excitement anyway.

That was a party political broadcast on behalf of the Russian democratic Party.. everyone's a liar and has no money apart from our esteemed leader. We have heard it all before. Those lads at Wrexham must of found a little bit of spare cash down the back of the sofa since raj binned them off. Going nowhere and never had any intentions. If I was the mail I'd ask raj who was the independent person involved in the great vote.

or an independant person to tell us if raj,s story time is fact or fiction. None of us know even if most want him gone.

It’s all v tiring more than anything, and I wonder is Singh getting any enjoyment out of owning pools ? You only live once and this sounds more like a burden to him now than something he is enjoying ….he does deserve a lot of credit for his role in our promo back to the league, similarly he deserves criticism for his role in our relegation

Hopefully he can find a suitable buyer, and go his separate ways from pools and enjoy himself doing something different as currently no one seems to be getting much out of the situation as it stands

And a few days after the Sunday Times no less, had a pop...

Well I certainly don't feel antagonised. The bloke has told us what happened to the proposed takeover and, as yet, nobody has come forward to refute anything he said on that. He gets hammered for not keeping us in the loop and when we do get a few scraps he gets it again.
Have you ever thought that he is so pissed off with all the abuse and hatred, fuelled by rumours, assumptions, made up accusations, being called a liar etc etc that he now could be saying, right they want me out and I will get out but on my terms and at a time to suit me. Maybe it is the very people who have been breaking their necks to force him out who are actually making him determined to stay.
Have you ever considered that while you're beggaring belief.
I don't know how many times I have to say this but the tactics that have been applied to shift him over the past three years HAVE NOT WORKED, FFS.

It is quite simple. The Mail has apologised for incorrect statements. Nobody had the money to buy the club. Just be grateful we are still operating.

The mail have apologised to avoid being sued and to be allowed back in the ground.
i think to say nobody had the money to buy the club is incorrect.

I'll be honest, I did feel antagonised by it at first, but the point that he is damned if he says nothing and damned if he says something is a valid one. After that ridiculous video that was posted over the summer, I'm always going to be quietly hoping for a takeover. With that said, the season has started now and there looks to be nothing happening on that front any time soon. Perhaps it is time to simply get behind the team and Simon Grayson.

Aye they did and started by calling the good folk of Hartlepool thick and Stelling a nutcase. Then they say that Raj wants Stelling banned from our rivals boardrooms when the letter clearly (wish he was still here) states that Raj asked them not to invite Jeff as a Hartlepool delegate, which he is not entitled to.
Not like the MSM to put their spin on it.
Raj is proving to be more of a Poolie than we thought cos a typical Poolie reaction to being attacked is to say right I'll show that effing lot.
He is certainly showing us now that's for sure.
A different tack is needed my friends because it never has been a good idea to pit an irresistable force against an immovable object.

Sensible approach and whilst we approach the situation with that attitude we have a chance of achieving what we all would like to see.

Nobody is saying there was no money available. What was said was that the remaining 90% was not forthcoming, a world of difference. They could have billions but the colour of it was required to be deposited with their solicitors.
After all the aggravation we have been through people still can't stick to the details.
FFS guys keep it fair and square and we might get somewhere.

He seems pissed off and miserable and in some respects he has a right to be, but again what is he getting out of this right now ?
Wonder how long before he decides what he has put in is a sunk cost, and moves on to something else that gives him more pleasure? Hopefully it’s soon as no one seems happy with the current situation and if things don’t go well on the pitch it’s only going to get worse

He’s 100% within his rights to put a value on the club and not sell until its value is met but the value of some thin is always relative and is defined beyond just monetary terms

If the price was agreed and due diligence was done why didn’t they deposit the 90% with their solicitors? They didn’t have it

Derwent, I think you may have read too much into my statement. My gripe is, why release such a statement now when the first home game is 3 days away ? Just don't understand what he hopes to achieve ?

Oh come on he is staying because he feels he can get more money simple as that. The tactics of us fans have been piss poor and weak so far. But that may change extremely quickly If we get off to a poor start Some comments on here aren't going to affect him, but I tell you what if 1500 dont turn up this week, judging by sales so far its not going to be a high turn out and the following weeks he might then have second thoughts.

You say the tactics haven't worked but this fella that can do no wrong in some eyes supposedly put the club up for sale and stepped down. Inly for a russian style vote did he miraculously come back When one day we find out the exact mess were in and when he gets even more arsey maybe those people will speak out against him too.

Kevins missed his medication
But still expects a Braintree victory even though they beat Leicester last night.

Agreed, in some eyes he can do no wrong and in some he can do no right and none of us know the real facts. I am therefore keeping an open mind and on the balance of probability it will be somewhere between the two.

So lets all turn up, get behind the team and see what develops.

Its all about opinions, but mine is that we don't know the facts and I don't think the constant insults or boycotts will help the team or the process of getting a new owners.

Opinions may vary!

As a few of us has pointed out, Raj's statement has been published by The Mail so they can have full access during the season - something they haven't had up to and including the Yeovil game.

I'd say it came from the club's solicitor (“We have been asked by Mr Singh and the club to point out blah blah blah"). Effectively The Mail have given him a right of reply to the two articles the statement complains about that appeared in early June.

It's old news now unless and until we hear anything more from Herd Group.

He loves the attention, I,m not bothered any more wether he stays or goes.
I don,t listen to him or his board, Not interested one bit.
When he gets bored the club will be dumped and most likely have to start over.
Who cares, I am not going to be held to ransom.
PS: How many season tickets did we sell upto now, Asking for a friend.

We would still be operating no mattered what has said.

How do you/we know the statements were incorrect, Sorry my mistake i had forgotten the club said so.

Well may be 63% are thick.NSD

Division as usual.

Post taken down,pure speculation.

Where is the evidence to back up he is holding out for more money. The evidence states that an agreed figure was reached, a ten per cent deposit was put down and the sale was on, until the balance wasn't deposited. You are grasping at straws as usual, your tactics have failed miserably and you are now banking on fans boycotting matches. What sort of supporter takes that sort of route.

Division will always create a few arselickers.
Creates a quick power feeling.
But only short term.

Tactics

Billys a concerned fan.
Not the manager or an Arselickers.

Wordage eh.

Lets just get this win on Saturday.

Can't be arsed with more division
WSO
UTP
NSD

FREE Lucy.

Double post

May be 63% are thick or 37% are thick or more likely, none of us have enough info to have an informed view or a crystal ball to predict the future.

I find all the rants from the high and mighty about supporters being either thick or “happy clappers” both condescending and patronising. Get over yourselves.

For full disclosure, I am not one of the 63% but can fully appreciate why many didn’t want to risk the club going bust.

Obviously we’re never going to agree on everything other than we are all Poolies who only want the best for HUFC. In my book that deserves a bit more understanding/respect.

Gone back to defending this man again I see crikey how naieve can one get.my tactics have failed miserably. That's laughable. Evidence says raj singh put the club up for sale. Evidence says raj singh stood down as chairman. Oh hang on dont you believe he did? Isn't it funny all these people keep coming out, jeff stelling, hartlepool mail, other newspapers, ex managers past people who have tried taking over the club that have said they have lost money, you choose never to believe them apart from the man destroying a second club.

Do you actually realise one day this man will probably have to close this club because he wouldn't sell up then you will turn round and say it was a few lads on the bunker pathetic.

If fans aren't bright enough to see why fans are boycotting then what hope have we got.

What I don’t deserve any understanding/respect for is double posting and not knowing how to delete it!