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 Post subject: It could reduce the number of crossings...
PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 10:29 am 
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BBC News - First migrants detained under 'one in, one out' deal with France
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce35v0zyzvlo
This is the bit that I think could reduce the number of crossings....

The pilot scheme is set to last 11 months and will see the UK accepting an equal number of asylum seekers who have not tried to cross and can pass security and eligibility checks.

We'll see how it goes.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 11:50 am 
But it’s not going to reduce the numbers, how can they prove the ones we accept are genuine asylum seekers, in fact one in one out is an example, it could be any figure.


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They have been ‘detained’ but all arrivals are detained. They can hardly have chosen anyone yet till decide who will be going back without verifying their claims….then, they’ll be entitled to legal advice and hey presto no one will be going anywhere.
If these people have no identities how can you believe proof of anything.
If they do go back, then they’ll report to the inflatable merry go round at Calais and try again…..it’s a conveyor belt.

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It seems reasonable to me lets give it a shot.

One thing that people dont seem to realise is that the UK is short of labour to run all the services in the country (NHS, care, hotels etc etc) and that is why the UK governments of all political persuasions allow it (legally). Where it gets politicised is that all political parties use it to bash the others whilst they would do the same things if they were in power.
The people who want to come to the UK are generally from poorer countries which you would expect. Can you imagine anyone from Scandinavia, Germany, Canada etc etc wanting to come here?
Then it gets mixed up with racism and it all becomes a shit show.

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It'll make absolutely no difference to the numbers arriving and falsely claiming asylum, except to the added costs of housing and transporting more of them. Turn them around at source, ie 12 mile limit. The rule of the season is that you must provide assistance to those in danger, don't think you have to bring them to their preferred destination though?


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If they're genuinely wanting to come and work here and they're of a checked and confirmed background then by all means allow them to come here legally if there's jobs for them. But there's already an established, safe, and legitimate way to do that - apply for a work visa for the UK.


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Bluestreak wrote:
It seems reasonable to me lets give it a shot.

One thing that people dont seem to realise is that the UK is short of labour to run all the services in the country (NHS, care, hotels etc etc) and that is why the UK governments of all political persuasions allow it (legally). Where it gets politicised is that all political parties use it to bash the others whilst they would do the same things if they were in power.
The people who want to come to the UK are generally from poorer countries which you would expect. Can you imagine anyone from Scandinavia, Germany, Canada etc etc wanting to come here?
Then it gets mixed up with racism and it all becomes a shit show.


Time we got our pampered home bred column dodgers working and not celebrate the ability to bring in cheap labour, that’s nothing to be proud of.

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Snowy wrote:
Bluestreak wrote:
It seems reasonable to me lets give it a shot.

One thing that people dont seem to realise is that the UK is short of labour to run all the services in the country (NHS, care, hotels etc etc) and that is why the UK governments of all political persuasions allow it (legally). Where it gets politicised is that all political parties use it to bash the others whilst they would do the same things if they were in power.
The people who want to come to the UK are generally from poorer countries which you would expect. Can you imagine anyone from Scandinavia, Germany, Canada etc etc wanting to come here?
Then it gets mixed up with racism and it all becomes a shit show.


Time we got our pampered home bred column dodgers working and not celebrate the ability to bring in cheap labour, that’s nothing to be proud of.


Yep cant argue with that its a national disgrace.

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 Post subject: Re: It could reduce the number of crossings...
PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 1:00 pm 
Ok let them come abide by our culture like they would have to do in the Arab nations, why dont they never seek asylum in Saudi, Emirates or Qatar etc no they won’t, we end up with ghettos in every town.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
But it’s not going to reduce the numbers, how can they prove the ones we accept are genuine asylum seekers, in fact one in one out is an example, it could be any figure.

It should cut the figures crossing 'illegally' and if they have no papers of identification because they will be the ones sent back.


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Snowy wrote:
They have been ‘detained’ but all arrivals are detained. They can hardly have chosen anyone yet till decide who will be going back without verifying their claims….then, they’ll be entitled to legal advice and hey presto no one will be going anywhere.
If these people have no identities how can you believe proof of anything.
If they do go back, then they’ll report to the inflatable merry go round at Calais and try again…..it’s a conveyor belt.

The people with no identification will be the ones sent back and swapped with someone who's got identification and have went through the correct process.


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PTID wrote:
If they're genuinely wanting to come and work here and they're of a checked and confirmed background then by all means allow them to come here legally if there's jobs for them. But there's already an established, safe, and legitimate way to do that - apply for a work visa for the UK.

Try doing that in Syria, Iran, Afghanistan etc etc.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 1:26 pm 
PTID wrote:
If they're genuinely wanting to come and work here and they're of a checked and confirmed background then by all means allow them to come here legally if there's jobs for them. But there's already an established, safe, and legitimate way to do that - apply for a work visa for the UK.


Where can they apply for a work visa In Afghanistan, Syria, Iran etc, even if for some reason they got one I doubt they would be allowed to board a flight.


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Oh those neighbouring countries of ours? There's literally dozens of closer "safe countries" for them to go to.
Wonder what the attraction of the UK is?


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They are of course free to apply for a visa once outside of their homelands, so if genuine and legitimately coming here for work they could apply in France and not use the dinghy route.


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We must be scared stiff of the French, not only are they taking the p..s they're taking our money too, and we are taking their problem off them. If anything they should be paying us for this debacle.

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Snowy wrote:
Bluestreak wrote:
It seems reasonable to me lets give it a shot.

One thing that people dont seem to realise is that the UK is short of labour to run all the services in the country (NHS, care, hotels etc etc) and that is why the UK governments of all political persuasions allow it (legally). Where it gets politicised is that all political parties use it to bash the others whilst they would do the same things if they were in power.
The people who want to come to the UK are generally from poorer countries which you would expect. Can you imagine anyone from Scandinavia, Germany, Canada etc etc wanting to come here?
Then it gets mixed up with racism and it all becomes a shit show.


Time we got our pampered home bred column dodgers working and not celebrate the ability to bring in cheap labour, that’s nothing to be proud of.


Ye all these job vacancies.
Make the lazy English bastads do them.

Save money on dolites n Boaties.

Vote KPG in 29 under the
Common Sense Party.

And I'd look after Oaps. :clap:


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Can't argue with that, every able-bodied person should be made to do work but for minimum wage, not benefits.


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 Post subject: Re: It could reduce the number of crossings...
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The numbers are so low that the unlucky few could be offered another free trip so the organising gangs can maintain numbers wanting to get to the land of milk and honey.
Just another feeble attempt by government to con the public into thinking they are doing something. Until the human rights act is scrapped, nothing will reduce numbers.

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MutleyRules wrote:
Snowy wrote:
They have been ‘detained’ but all arrivals are detained. They can hardly have chosen anyone yet till decide who will be going back without verifying their claims….then, they’ll be entitled to legal advice and hey presto no one will be going anywhere.
If these people have no identities how can you believe proof of anything.
If they do go back, then they’ll report to the inflatable merry go round at Calais and try again…..it’s a conveyor belt.

The people with no identification will be the ones sent back and swapped with someone who's got identification and have went through the correct process.

The lawyers will save their bacon….no one’s gone anywhere yet, just detained.
Do we actually need anymore migrants… sctatchinghead

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Snowy wrote:
MutleyRules wrote:
Snowy wrote:
They have been ‘detained’ but all arrivals are detained. They can hardly have chosen anyone yet till decide who will be going back without verifying their claims….then, they’ll be entitled to legal advice and hey presto no one will be going anywhere.
If these people have no identities how can you believe proof of anything.
If they do go back, then they’ll report to the inflatable merry go round at Calais and try again…..it’s a conveyor belt.

The people with no identification will be the ones sent back and swapped with someone who's got identification and have went through the correct process.

The lawyers will save their bacon….no one’s gone anywhere yet, just detained.
Do we actually need anymore migrants… sctatchinghead

in the past we needed them and advertised for them. the present situation is totally different. would love to hear what those old immigrants think of the present situation who will have many grandchildren and possibly great grandkids now who are following in their footsteps. you walk down a street but unfortunetly the brown face you see could either be a third generation one or somebody recently arrived by dinghy.


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PTID wrote:
Oh those neighbouring countries of ours? There's literally dozens of closer "safe countries" for them to go to.
Wonder what the attraction of the UK is?

I think the ‘attraction’ is bleedin obvious…pampering, then housed….. plus no ID cards like the rest of Europe, that make us the only destination for these opportunists.

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Snowy wrote:
PTID wrote:
Oh those neighbouring countries of ours? There's literally dozens of closer "safe countries" for them to go to.
Wonder what the attraction of the UK is?

I think the ‘attraction’ is bleedin obvious…pampering, then housed….. plus no ID cards like the rest of Europe, that make us the only destination for these opportunists.

bet our european friends were glad of brexit as we could influence them to be another uk if we had stayed.


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