Leeds Ticket prices (again!)

ptbap · **Posted:** Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:04 am

I'm not going to complain, I couldn't care less if it's £25 on Saturday.

It's going to be a cracking game played in front of 30,000 passionate fans.

There's one simple answer to the people who moan about the price (like the goon in the Mail last night who seemed to think just because we've just been promoted from League Two we should pay less, why?!), don't pay it, stay at home and listen to the radio.

I've got my ticket, I'll only live once so I'm going to try and enjoy me little life!

Ken Bates · **Joined:** Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:24 pm **Posts:** 71

I'd suggest nearer 27,000.

Still not bad though...

Spender · **Posted:** Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:13 am

We're 'A' List. 30,000 is compulsory or else there should be no kick off until number 29,999 plus 1 comes through the gates. They've only had Southend and Luton there so far and they're both southern shandy poofs teams. We need the big 3-oh to watch Pools demolish them and introduce them to life in the Third Division. :wink:

Ken Bates · **Joined:** Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:24 pm **Posts:** 71

Well it would help if you could sell all your tickets bbolt

no6bus · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:55 pm **Posts:** 5096

BUT we were allocated 1750ish we have sold 2300+ so allowing for the 1700 extra away fans compared to the 600 there last week and a crowd of 27000ish last week it only needs 700 extra yorkshire puds to break the 30000 so get your fingers out bbolt

billyisgod · **Joined:** Thu May 17, 2007 3:13 pm **Posts:** 90

i hope you buggers make a bit more noise than the soft suvvern poofs weve had for the last two games?

ptbap · **Posted:** Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:17 pm

Oh don't worry about that, we'll play out part.

rolf

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:25 pm

billyisgod wrote:

i hope you buggers make a bit more noise than the soft suvvern poofs weve had for the last two games?

We made more noise than Lu'n even at their place!

poolieboydave · **Posted:** Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:51 pm

Richard M. Head wrote:

billyisgod wrote:

i hope you buggers make a bit more noise than the soft suvvern poofs weve had for the last two games?

We made more noise than Lu'n even at their place!

And yet the atmosphere at the vic just gets quieter and quieter...

Ken Bates · **Joined:** Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:24 pm **Posts:** 71

no6bus wrote:

BUT we were allocated 1750ish we have sold 2300+ so allowing for the 1700 extra away fans compared to the 600 there last week and a crowd of 27000ish last week it only needs 700 extra yorkshire puds to break the 30000 so get your fingers out bbolt

Nope. Those of you in the South Stand Upper & Lower are sitting in seats occupied by Leeds fans last week. The cheaper seats. Sadly with no concessions available anywhere else in the ground by and large some will simply not pay £30 for an adult, let alone a kid.

http://www.leedsunited.com/page/Newsroo ... 04,00.html

I stand by 27000. Max 28000. Not shoddy, admittedly :wink:

morley · **Joined:** Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:37 pm **Posts:** 21

"We need the big 3-oh to watch Pools demolish them and introduce them to life in the Third Division"

FFS Kev you crack me really you do :laugh:

bet yer a real hoot on a night out, so much so if yer gonna be in the drysalters pre match i might have to come in and have a laugh!!!

no6bus · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:55 pm **Posts:** 5096

morley wrote:

"We need the big 3-oh to watch Pools demolish them and introduce them to life in the Third Division"

FFS Kev you crack me really you do :laugh:

bet yer a real hoot on a night out, so much so if yer gonna be in the drysalters pre match i might have to come in and have a laugh!!!

he will if you pay his airfare

morley · **Joined:** Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:37 pm **Posts:** 21

no6bus wrote:

morley wrote:

"We need the big 3-oh to watch Pools demolish them and introduce them to life in the Third Division"

FFS Kev you crack me really you do :laugh:

bet yer a real hoot on a night out, so much so if yer gonna be in the drysalters pre match i might have to come in and have a laugh!!!

he will if you pay his airfare

oh i see.......he's one of these out of the country part time fans that all clubs have to suffer :razz:

billyisgod · **Joined:** Thu May 17, 2007 3:13 pm **Posts:** 90

chip fireball wrote:

ptbap wrote:

I'm not going to complain, I couldn't care less if it's £25 on Saturday.

It's going to be a cracking game played in front of 30,000 passionate fans.

There's one simple answer to the people who moan about the price (like the goon in the Mail last night who seemed to think just because we've just been promoted from League Two we should pay less, why?!), don't pay it, stay at home and listen to the radio.

I've got my ticket, I'll only live once so I'm going to try and enjoy me little life!

yup and it could be argued its because of goons like you that theres players on a hundred grand a week.

£74 for a family of four to watch division 3 football is just plain daft.

ah right, its fuck all to do with murdoch at all then?

whitelight.whiteheat · **Posted:** Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:37 pm

So that you enjoy your day and get maximum value for your £25 you will want to take part in the community singing - I thought you might like a copy of the lyrics so that you don't feel left out:

We've been through it all together
And we've had our ups and downs
We're gonna stay with you forever
At least until the world stops going 'round
...
Every day, we're all gonna say
We love you Leeds! Leeds! Leeds!
Everywhere, we're gonna be there
We love you Leeds! Leeds! Leeds!
Marchin' on together
We're gonna see you win
We are so proud
We shout it out loud
We love you Leeds! Leeds! Leeds!

Marchin' on together
We're gonna see you win
We are so proud
We shout it out loud
We love you Leeds! Leeds! Leeds! bbolt

whitelight.whiteheat · **Posted:** Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:57 pm

Talking of salary caps - have you noticed how (with the exception of Rhino's) how the team that wins super league is deducted points the following year for breaking the cap when they won the blessed trophy? So, good advert there . . .

Is £25 really too much? For me the issue is kids prices - not adult prices. £375 for my season ticket - is that really too much?

Spender · **Posted:** Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:14 am

morley wrote:

"We need the big 3-oh to watch Pools demolish them and introduce them to life in the Third Division"

FFS Kev you crack me really you do :laugh:

bet yer a real hoot on a night out, so much so if yer gonna be in the drysalters pre match i might have to come in and have a laugh!!!

Sadly as my mate says, I will not be in the 'Salters pre-match though in different circumstances I'd have been in there since Friday night. I am indeed a foreign exile, in China, but in my defence it is a recent move and I went to Bristol Rovers last season three days before I flew out of England so I hope I can't be defined as a 'part timer.' I lived 45 miles south of you but I was a season ticket holder at Pools. :wink:

parmopooly · **Posted:** Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:46 am

chip fireball wrote:

whitelight.whiteheat wrote:

Talking of salary caps - have you noticed how (with the exception of Rhino's) how the team that wins super league is deducted points the following year for breaking the cap when they won the blessed trophy? So, good advert there . . .

Is £25 really too much? For me the issue is kids prices - not adult prices. £375 for my season ticket - is that really too much?

yeah the kids prices are crippling me, especially now my eldest is 16 and no longer considered a kid.

i felt a complete and utter bastid tonight when i told her she wasnt going on saturday and i am. especially when she said it was the only away game she really wanted to go to this season.

the pair of us have gone from doing 15-20 away games a season to virtually none simply cos i cant afford it.

if i was single 25 quid would be just about okay. but one of the lads i know has 3 kids aged 18, 14 and 12 and its costing him over a ton including transport.

i think the salary cap/draft system in the nfl is an example of something that genuinely makes the competition competitive.

i think it has worked to a lesser extent in super league. it seems to have affected wigan probably more than anyone else. they dont seem to have been competitive at all since its introduction. primarily because they insist on spending money on shite rather than doing what saints and leeds have done which, is to spend wisely and bring more young players through the ranks.

is super league truly competitive ? i think in terms of the individual matches it probably is, but overall the big clubs will still come out on top.the salary cap certainly makes it a bit harder for the big clubs to dominate as they would do without it.

i certainly couldnt forsee someone like catalans doing what they did to wigan in the challenge cup before the salary cap came in.

Aye, add that up over fifty games if you don't have a season ticket!! It's fast becoming a rich man's sport. I can remember getting into Pools for 10 pence, I'm sure it was only about 5p when I first started going!!! Even accounting for index-linking, that won't be much in today's terms either.

Ken Bates · **Joined:** Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:24 pm **Posts:** 71

Surely the issue is that he has three kids, not the ticket prices. Even if the young 'uns were, say, a fiver each (unlikely in any ground on a regular basis, to be honest) the fixed costs of travel, food, drink etc would still be there. £80 instead of £100. Still a fair amount. Is it the ticket prices or simply the cost of having kids that is the difference?

It's like saying that when I was single I could afford to eat in decent restaurants, but because they don't do teenager's meals at a cheap price I can't afford it any more.

I take it his food and clothing bill has gone up rather a lot as well.

Kids are bloody expensive to maintain. Full stop.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:01 pm

Ken Bates wrote:

Kids are bloody expensive to maintain. Full stop.

Unless you bump 'em off while pretending to be at a restaurant having left them with no babysitter.

ptbap · **Posted:** Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:51 pm

Ken Bates wrote:

Ken Bates wrote:
Kids are bloody expensive to maintain. Full stop.

Oi, there's no use in pointing out the obvious Ken, chip has decided football is too expensive and is pricing itself out of reach of the common man. Don't start bringing the three kids that his mate can't afford to pay for into the equation. I wonder if he can afford to take those same three kids to any other live sporting event 120 miles from home.

God knows why Football League attendances go up every year.

Yours
ptbap aka goon!

dawlishmonkey · **Joined:** Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:53 am **Posts:** 1588

[quote="Ken Bates"]Surely the issue is that he has three kids, not the ticket prices. Even if the young 'uns were, say, a fiver each (unlikely in any ground on a regular basis, to be honest) the fixed costs of travel, food, drink etc would still be there. £80 instead of £100. Still a fair amount. Is it the ticket prices or simply the cost of having kids that is the difference?

ffs let the money men charge what they like then and blame the footie fans for having too many kids.....it ain't China.
while ever leeds are winning these prices will have no effect,start losing and watch it become a big issue.Thats not a pop at leeds it's the same everywhere.Just not everyone's paying 25 quid a pop to watch 3rd division footi

Ken Bates · **Joined:** Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:24 pm **Posts:** 71

I agree entirely!

But the point being made was about kid's prices specifically. The implication was that they were being priced out. If you're travelling 170 miles return, having four McDonalds (for example), four coffees/cokes at the game, a programme or two and perhaps a couple of pints the relative cost of the admission ticket drops.

We have fans who come from America, Norway, Sweden, Ireland. When making the decision whether they can afford it the difference between £25 £ 15 is not at the forefront of their mind.

The closer you are to home the more relevance the ticket price is. But as the example quoted earlier in the thread was about a family of four travelling to away games (for a ton) I simply asked whether in the global scheme of things the ticket prices were as important as all that.

When you have children you spend money that would otherwise go on football on other things. That then leaves less money in the pot for ANY form of leisure.

What discount do you get for a thirteen year old at Blackpool Pleasure Beach for a wristband? Or at Alton Towers? The answer may surprise you. So why should cheap tickets for kids be SUCH an issue at football. All businesses need the family market, after all.

Ken Bates · **Joined:** Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:24 pm **Posts:** 71

And they are Alton Towers, and The Pleasure Beach's future as well. No discounts at all once you're a teenager.

I'm not arguing against the fact that prices are too high. We could probably have got approaching 40,000 if prices had been £15 for tomorrow.

But the family argument is in my opinion a smokescreen sometimes. Why should football essentially give tickets away when other businesses don't?

ptbap · **Posted:** Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:34 pm

To a certain extent I would agree with

"alienating its core support if prices keep rising at their current rates."

But there's little evidence of this at all but a handful of clubs, the accrington's of this world are the exception at the moment, all other clubs in the premiership/football league are seeing healthy crowds. Middlesbrough perhaps are another who are suffering.

As for comparing football with cinema, I don't think that's a fair comparison. For a start you've taken out the 240 mile round trip. Cinema is not live entertainment, cinema's certainly don't have the over heads of football clubs.

whitelight.whiteheat · **Posted:** Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:57 pm

The key is to get the kids through the door - some parents don't go anywhere without 'em so cheap family tickets are a winner. You can bring sarnies and a flask if you want to keep the price down but you can only pay what the gate man charges. Kids for a quid etc is what we need. Kids are expensive - tell you what though - from 18 it just get's worse. Now then let's have you back up that chimney banghead

ptbap · **Posted:** Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:22 pm

chip fireball wrote:

cmon mate, 40 odd league clubs in administration in 10 years suggests something is very wrong.

Yeah, 'kin useless chairmen who couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

Spender · **Posted:** Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:28 pm

Right.

You can go to the cinema cheaply yes, cheaper than footy and for the same length of time per visit.

The film has got fook all to do with you, it's probably some American cack, 'cos the Yanks or rather the Jews, own all the cinemas and won't push English films. The films are made by Jews, star Jews and basically promote Jewish propaganda. Contentious I know but argue that one down if you can.

Staying within the context of the thread, you haven't followed the film for multi decades or have it's history embedded in your soul. It's a cheap night out unless you buy the soggy nacho's or extortionate pick and mix jelly rubbish. You can't talk to your mates or get so closely involved with a film. You'd get chucked out for swearing at the top of your voice for a start. They don't even have half time so you can go for a piss or a pint. There will be nothing in any film that will make you lose your fookin' mind for a minute like a goal does.

But if you like soft focus American films, Coca Cola or Fanta at 2.50 a pint, most of which is water, make your choice. :roll:

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:08 pm

Pooliekev wrote:

Right.

You can go to the cinema cheaply yes, cheaper than footy and for the same length of time per visit.

The film has got fook all to do with you, it's probably some American cack, 'cos the Yanks or rather the Jews, own all the cinemas and won't push English films. The films are made by Jews, star Jews and basically promote Jewish propaganda. Contentious I know but argue that one down if you can.

Staying within the context of the thread, you haven't followed the film for multi decades or have it's history embedded in your soul. It's a cheap night out unless you buy the soggy nacho's or extortionate pick and mix jelly rubbish. You can't talk to your mates or get so closely involved with a film. You'd get chucked out for swearing at the top of your voice for a start. They don't even have half time so you can go for a piss or a pint. There will be nothing in any film that will make you lose your fookin' mind for a minute like a goal does.

But if you like soft focus American films, Coca Cola or Fanta at 2.50 a pint, most of which is water, make your choice. :roll:

I cant remember the last time I saw a mainstream release at the cinema or on DVD that was any good, its all bland generic dogshite and if I have to pay four times the amount to watch Pools over the latter, I will

dawlishmonkey · **Joined:** Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:53 am **Posts:** 1588

I remember seeing that series Chip.It was really good.
but anyway your point about kids is right,I'm not going to leeds tomorrow because my boy is,I'll spend the time with my daughter instead.I can't afford to do it all at those prices tomorrow is his day and I'll get mine later in the season.there comes a point where the price is too much.

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